Discussions On Creation vs Evolution [Reply #3]

The Question:
Creation vs Evolution: Which Do you Believe In?

JH wrote on July 24, 2007:

I believe in science, the cold facts and the theories. Remember that evolution is referred to as the theory of evolution, meaning that unless it is proven true or false, it’s a theoretical concept.

Do I believe we evolved from monkeys? Very likely. Hell, look at the other alternatives we’ve been given! Either we we’re planted here by aliens, or God made us in his image 4000 years ago.

Monkeys, God or Aliens…
There’s no concrete proof that God exists. There’s no concrete proof that aliens exist. We’ve got monkeys in Zoos. Case closed.

To believe in Creation is to renounce all science and scientific methods. If an archeologist carbon dates a bone to be say 3 million years old, give or take a century, is he lying or using faulty equipment?

The theory of evolution believes that through time, a lot of time, humans evolved from other primates. The story of creation suggests, and is trying to prove, that the God created the Earth 4000 years ago, the so-called “Young Earth Model”. (there’s actually a “scientific journal on creation” in America, trying to prove the Young Earth Model with “hard data” and “scientific fact”. Um, right… Good luck…)

That said, I won’t go so far as to believe that the theory of evolution is not a theory, but rather a scientific fact. It’s still a theory, and I’ll believe it as a theory until it is completely and comprehensively proven to be a fact or a logical alternative arrives.

Creation is not that alternative.

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Discussions On Creation vs Evolution [Reply #2]

The Question:
Creation vs Evolution: Which Do you Believe In?

LV wrote on July 24, 2007:

I thought the religious people got smart and decided to combine the two, say that God started evolution and that Genesis is an old fucking story? Or am I just being all naive and giving people credit for being smart?

I can’t understand how anyone can believe that some kind of magic power sat there and created everything, like building with playdoh. In Lucifer there was that nice bit where the angel chick created another world by thinking it, and then she had to try and maintain it. But that was a fucking comic book.

No, I don’t have an answer to, “so where did all begin?” No one does and no one will, so religious people need to back off and leave me alone cause they can’t back up their theory either. At least mine’s logical. …I should go debate on tv or something, I’d kick ass.

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The Question:
Creation vs Evolution: Which Do you Believe In?

DP wrote on July 12, 2007:

In short Evolution, but not as to why but as to how.

Evolution we can pretty much take as scientific fact and have monutains of evidence to back this. Further studies into genetics that have taken place for years and continue to do so as we unravel the mysteries about DNA have given us strong suggestions that we share common traits with other mamalls and are different because as we exist in different environments we have adapted in different ways, evolving into different yet similar species. I wont go into too much science as I am terrible at it.

Science however is an interesting thing for creationism. The purpose of science as most people see it is to discover the functions of our natural world, sure we know things happen but how do they or how did they happen is a question which has lead to the constant progression of mankind. Creationists, if we can call them that, seem to believe in presuppositions, or that we know how it happened it was the work of god and he did it like this, and then work to fit the science to that theory. This in my oppinion goes aginst science itself! In their defence creationists say it is better to have something to start with so you know how and why and can just fit things together, but this creates a bias and clouded judgement which could keep them from unlocking teh real secrets of the natural world. If your mind is biased and the “solution” is already in your head then ofcourse you will see only what you want to.

As for the bible it is amazing that somone can deny the progress of hundreds of years of science and discovery based on text written thousdans of years ago by men who had no such means of understanding the smallest details in teh natural world beyond the observation of what was happening around them. Perhaps the Bible is not the be all and end all to life on earth and how it came to be, but perhaps a metaphor for us to comprehend the magnificence of the world that surrounds us and a way of teaching to people morality, good an evil. Perhaps, if we looked at the Bible with a little bit more innocence.

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